Comments on: Why don’t Engineering colleges have a student union? http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/ Beyond Repair Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:50:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Toxic}{ermit http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4231 Toxic}{ermit Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:18:29 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4231 Gruesome way to put it but unfortunately true. Gruesome way to put it but unfortunately true.

]]> By: George http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4197 George Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:58:31 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4197 Precisely, we don't have to fight for it because someone did ages ago. The Scrub Society college environmental group (now admittedly in ruins) was once started with rebellion. Dude, Loyola was known for rebelling to prevent hoardings from being set up on college land. People put in the effort. However, look at it this way. You pay 2 lakhs and get expelled for rebelling, is it worth it? We pay 12,000 over 3 years. For all the people who go to engineering colleges, that's the way they look at it. It's an investment, you pay, stay there for 4 years, they've sold you a degree, it's over. One more thing, engineering students can die and the colleges won't give a damn, there's a huge pool to choose from. Precisely, we don’t have to fight for it because someone did ages ago. The Scrub Society college environmental group (now admittedly in ruins) was once started with rebellion. Dude, Loyola was known for rebelling to prevent hoardings from being set up on college land. People put in the effort.

However, look at it this way. You pay 2 lakhs and get expelled for rebelling, is it worth it? We pay 12,000 over 3 years. For all the people who go to engineering colleges, that’s the way they look at it. It’s an investment, you pay, stay there for 4 years, they’ve sold you a degree, it’s over.

One more thing, engineering students can die and the colleges won’t give a damn, there’s a huge pool to choose from.

]]> By: Toxic}{ermit http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4098 Toxic}{ermit Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:01:28 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4098 Natural? Haha... I guess so. Well, at least Engg. colleges affiliated to AU can say that they've been around for a lot lesser time than the other A&S colleges. A&S students don't have to demand for a union, it's already been done for them. Natural? Haha… I guess so.

Well, at least Engg. colleges affiliated to AU can say that they’ve been around for a lot lesser time than the other A&S colleges. A&S students don’t have to demand for a union, it’s already been done for them.

]]> By: Vinod kumar http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4056 Vinod kumar Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:18:13 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4056 There is no use in it. Even if we form some union the college wont listen to the students. Its natural. There is no use in it. Even if we form some union the college wont listen to the students. Its natural.

]]> By: Toxic}{ermit http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4024 Toxic}{ermit Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:45:23 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4024 I'm not comparing. All I'm saying is that they know the difference between their culturals and technical events. Why not follow their model? Other AU affiliated colleges just smash the whole thing in to one silly single day funfair. The whole thing feels like a bothersome assignment badly put together just to show that something's done. I'm ranting, I know. The whole futility of a 4 year education gets to you after a while. I’m not comparing. All I’m saying is that they know the difference between their culturals and technical events. Why not follow their model? Other AU affiliated colleges just smash the whole thing in to one silly single day funfair. The whole thing feels like a bothersome assignment badly put together just to show that something’s done.

I’m ranting, I know. The whole futility of a 4 year education gets to you after a while.

]]> By: Srividya http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4010 Srividya Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:10:56 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-4010 How can you even compare IIT with the rest of the affiliated colleges.Even if we did have the funds we can get nowhere near Shastra or Saarang.For us,even the basic essentials are denied-bad mess food,for one.There is no motivation.At the end of the day, we are too tired to even complain. How can you even compare IIT with the rest of the affiliated colleges.Even if we did have the funds we can get nowhere near Shastra or Saarang.For us,even the basic essentials are denied-bad mess food,for one.There is no motivation.At the end of the day, we are too tired to even complain.

]]> By: Toxic}{ermit http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3960 Toxic}{ermit Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:06:06 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3960 (I dug out George's comment from the spam comments section) George, I can't really deny that there aren't too many in my college who'd stand up for creating a union but the fact that there isn't even one Engineering college out there thats got a union is disturbing. From what I remember, about 75% of my classmates in school got in to engineering colleges and the others got in to A&S colleges. I can't see how this 75% could conclude that a union is not worth it while the other 25% decided it was worth it. BTW, anyone know if IIT has a student union? (I dug out George’s comment from the spam comments section)

George, I can’t really deny that there aren’t too many in my college who’d stand up for creating a union but the fact that there isn’t even one Engineering college out there thats got a union is disturbing. From what I remember, about 75% of my classmates in school got in to engineering colleges and the others got in to A&S colleges. I can’t see how this 75% could conclude that a union is not worth it while the other 25% decided it was worth it.

BTW, anyone know if IIT has a student union?

]]> By: Toxic}{ermit http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3958 Toxic}{ermit Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:43:50 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3958 But why Engineering colleges alone? How come Arts and Science colleges (I'll call them A&S colleges from now on) can convince their administration of the need for a union and not Engineering colleges? Tough luck is not a good enough reason. But why Engineering colleges alone? How come Arts and Science colleges (I’ll call them A&S colleges from now on) can convince their administration of the need for a union and not Engineering colleges?

Tough luck is not a good enough reason.

]]> By: Arun http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3957 Arun Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:34:00 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3957 Do you think they will set it up without drafting a bunch of ridiculous conditions that might well defeat the purpose of a union? I have never heard of a considerate administration that actually listens to students in engineering colleges so far. Do you think they will set it up without drafting a bunch of ridiculous conditions that might well defeat the purpose of a union? I have never heard of a considerate administration that actually listens to students in engineering colleges so far.

]]> By: George http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3953 George Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:13:28 +0000 http://www.massault.org/blog/2008/01/20/why-dont-engineering-colleges-have-a-student-union/#comment-3953 Why don't engineering colleges have a student union? Because engineering students don't want one. If they did, they'd put in the effort. However, they weigh the benefits vs. the risks and decide that it's not worth the effort so they give up. No pain no gain, you know, but those who take engineering just for the heck of it aren't those who believe in that principle anyway. The majority is students trying to get out of actually thinking and choosing what they want to do. These aren't the people who'll stand up for something like that. People lining up to talk to the Princi about canteen food, that is hilarious. Ha ha, that's crazy. As always, prefix every statement with IMHO. Why don’t engineering colleges have a student union? Because engineering students don’t want one. If they did, they’d put in the effort. However, they weigh the benefits vs. the risks and decide that it’s not worth the effort so they give up. No pain no gain, you know, but those who take engineering just for the heck of it aren’t those who believe in that principle anyway. The majority is students trying to get out of actually thinking and choosing what they want to do. These aren’t the people who’ll stand up for something like that.

People lining up to talk to the Princi about canteen food, that is hilarious. Ha ha, that’s crazy.

As always, prefix every statement with IMHO.

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